Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 19:52:49 CST From: "Donald M. Lance" Subject: Re: productive competence The strongest ae-raising was in the speech of "West Countians" from University City (which has experienced much white flight) and Ladue (which hasn't). As much as I don't like to think that TV drives language change, I suspect it may have in this case. ae-raising is a handy tool for stereotyiping the kind of people that ae-raisers don't want to be like, so maybe younger St Louisans consciously or subconsciously avoided the ae-raising they heard in the speech of the (stereotyped) adults in the neighborhood. Recently Rudy Troike mentioned that ae-retracting was strong in Tucson. I hear some in Missouri students, but not much. It's fer shir on MTV. DMLance