Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 10:42:03 +0100 From: Hans Vappula Subject: Re: The /x/ sounds in Scots and Dutch Rudy Troike wrote: >Calling all phoneticians-- > The [x] (NOT /x/) in and SHOULDN'T be the same, given >the difference in phonetic environment, even if they were in the same language. >Cf. the [k]'s in and (ignoring the aspiration), both /k/. > --Rudy Troike You're right. I stand corrected on that one. As for using slashes instead brackets, I did that only because the ASCII positions of these brackets are used for two of the letters of the Swedish alphabet and show up as these letters on my screen. I am aware that I should use brackets, and that not doing so is culturally arrogant in this context. Sorry... John Kirk asks: >Hans Vappula talks about [x] in INITIAL position in Scots. Could he >give us some examples, please? > >John KIRK >The Queen's University of Belfast No, I'm afraid I can't. As has been pointed out to me by Rudy, see above, the two sounds aren't even the same. Until proven otherwise, I assume there are no such examples. Please accept my apologies for having confused things... //Hans //Hans Vappula, Gothenburg Universities' Computing Centre, G|teborg, Sweden ========================================================================= Hans Vappula * guchw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] * hans.vappula[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] ([AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] = at sign)