Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 21:07:48 -0700 From: Rudy Troike Subject: Re: Sounding Northern Us Valleyites (not San Fernando) stick together. One of my major sociolinguistic handicaps at the University of Texas (in those days it was The University, no nonsense about "at Austin") was not "sounding like a Texan". Don Lance actually sounds a bit more Texan than I do (maybe something that gets in the water in the river between Mission and Brownsville; I know the boron level is higher). While I was at UT, I regularly asked classes where they thought I was from, and uniformly got answers like Ohio, Illinois, Iowa. However, they were greatly reassured when I told them I pronounced and alike, and regularly used . But it was still embarrassing to my Texan nationalism not to be recognized as a native. Nevertheless, I concur that Valley English is a good candidate for a standard prestige variety. --Rudy Troike