Date: Tue, 13 Dec 1994 12:56:22 -0600
From: Katherine Catmull kate[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]BGA.COM
Subject: Re: Da Bears
At 10:51 AM 12/13/94 -0600, salikoko mufwene wrote:
In Message Tue, 13 Dec 1994 09:51:20 -0600,
"Timothy C. Frazer" mftcf[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]uxa.ecn.bgu.edu writes:
By "flatter" sound did you mean like with the tongue raised and tensed,
like toward barred [I]? I would describe the low central [a] as "open"
rather than flat.
I may have a distorted perception as a non-native speaker, but in the
phrase "Dah Bulls," with which I am more familiar, the article sounds
somewhere between a schwa and [a]. (I don't remember whether I have seen
"dah" always spelled with "h".)
Yes, thank you. That's more or less where I'd put the sound, too. Sorry I
wasn't more clear before--I am obviously not an expert on phonetics.
I've been searching for a sound to compare it to, and the closest I've come
is that, um, guitar-noise Beavis & Butthead make when they're playing air
guitar. It has that nasal quality.
When I was visiting Chicago about three years ago, one of the papers ran a
column about the "dah Bears" phenomenon, which evidently many people there
were rather sensitive about. The writer located that particular "a" sound
combined with the final "s" (rather than [z]) as specific to one small area
of the city, but I can't recall where it was.
Kate Catmull kate[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]bga.com