Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 10:42:03 +0100
From: Hans Vappula guchw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]GD.CHALMERS.SE
Subject: Re: The /x/ sounds in Scots and Dutch
Rudy Troike wrote:
Calling all phoneticians--
The [x] (NOT /x/) in loch and geen SHOULDN'T be the same, given
the difference in phonetic environment, even if they were in the same language.
Cf. the [k]'s in lock and keep (ignoring the aspiration), both /k/.
You're right. I stand corrected on that one.
As for using slashes instead brackets, I did that only because the ASCII
positions of these brackets are used for two of the letters of the Swedish
alphabet and show up as these letters on my screen. I am aware that I
should use brackets, and that not doing so is culturally arrogant in this
John Kirk asks:
Hans Vappula talks about [x] in INITIAL position in Scots. Could he
give us some examples, please?
The Queen's University of Belfast
No, I'm afraid I can't. As has been pointed out to me by Rudy, see above,
the two sounds aren't even the same. Until proven otherwise, I assume there
are no such examples. Please accept my apologies for having confused
//Hans Vappula, Gothenburg Universities' Computing Centre, G|teborg, Sweden
Hans Vappula * guchw[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]gd.chalmers.se * hans.vappula[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]gd.gu.se ([AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] = at sign)