Date: Tue, 8 Apr 1997 11:09:27 -0500 From: Mark Mandel Subject: tipping -Reply >>> E.W. Gilman 0408.0430 >>> It occurs to me that it is curious that no one to my knowledge has pointed out the illogicality of the supposed acronymic source--to insure promptness--of the word tip. How could money given after the meal or whatever is consumed insure prompt service? If the tip were given first, maybe, but some of the tips I have given over the years would only insure dilatoriness. <<< This counter-argument, at least, fails my reality test. Sure, a stranger passing through the only place in the country with such a box couldn't benefit from it, nor the waiters (or whatever) from him. But: a. Repeat customers stand to benefit from a reputation as good tippers (or even more so, discriminating tippers!). Consider the farmer who comes to market every week or every month, or the drummer (traveling salesman) on a regular route. b. If the custom is widespread, then even the passer-through can be expected with some confidence to know about it, and to tip after good service -- or, conversely, to tip in the expectation of good service. You may read "hope" for "expect(ation)" here, since the one-time transaction depends on trust. Mind yez, I do not support the purportive acronymic origin! I'm just trying to keep the counter-arguments clean. Mark A. Mandel : Senior Linguist : mark[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE] Dragon Systems, Inc. : speech recognition : +1 617 965-5200 320 Nevada St., Newton, MA 02160, USA : Personal home page: