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There are 18 messages totalling 596 lines in this issue.



Topics of the day:



 1. Interesting Free Offer........... (7)

 2. Interesting Free Off (2)

 3. Send=Private Review=Private (3)

 4. begging the question

 5. books by Chambers and by Chaika (3)

 6. ADS Teaching news

 7. recorded sources



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Date:  Mon, 8 Apr 1996 03:31:15 -0400

From:  JohnChen00[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]AOL.COM

Subject: Interesting Free Offer...........



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Forwarded message:

Subj:  Interesting Free Offer........

Date:  96-04-08 02:45:01 EDT

From:  JohnChen00



To:   announcement.service[AT SYMBOL GOES HERE]r1.f62.n8669.z303.fidonet.org



-----> NOTE:  Please first read my note which appears below the "Request for

more info Form." Then, to get more info, just fill out the "Request for More

Info" form completely and *FAX* or *SMAIL* it back to the company. You will

get a quick reply via email within 1 business day of receipt of the info

request form below.



IMPORTANT NOTICE FOR THOSE FAXING IN THEIR REPLY: Please make sure you

return *only* the below form and *no part* of this message other than the

actual form below. If you do not know how to cut and paste the below form

onto a fresh clean blank page for faxing, then you may re-type the below

form, as long as you copy it line for line *exactly.* This is necessary in

order for them to be able to process the tremendous number of replies that

they get daily.



Your fax goes directly onto their 4.2 gigabyte computer hard drive, not

paper, and all incoming fax calls are set-up to be *auto-terminated* and/or

*auto-deleted* from the incoming queue of faxes to be read, if your fax:



1. has a cover page;

2. is more than one page

3. is sent more than one time

4. does not begin with the "cut here/begin" line from the below form

5. does not end with the "cut here/end" line from the below form.

6. has any handwritten info. on it (info must must be filled out *only*

  with your computer keyboard or typewriter keyboard). This last

  provision re: no handwriting on the form applies to requests sent in

  via smail also.



^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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NOTE: Their fax line is open 24 hrs. per day / 7 days per week.  However,

 if you have trouble getting through due to the high volume of overseas faxes

coming in during the early morning and late night hours, please note that the

best time to get through to their fax is Monday-Friday, 9 am - 5 pm EST (New

York Time). If you have trouble getting through to their fax, or do not have

a fax machine at work or at home, just drop the below form to them via smail

(airmail or first class mail).

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*------------cut here/begin-------------------------------------------*

REQUEST FOR MORE INFO: please return *only* this section (with no cover

page) via 1-page fax to:

               718-967-1550 in the USA



or via smail (first class mail or airmail) to:

                     Magazine Club Inquiry Center

                     Att. FREE Catalogue-by-email Dept.

                     PO Box 990

                     Staten Island NY 10312-0990



Sorry, but incomplete forms *will not* be acknowledged. If you do not

have an email address, or access to one, they will not be able to help you

until you do have one. If you saw this message, then you should have one.

 :)



---> SORRY, BUT NO HANDWRITTEN FORMS WILL BE ACKNOWLEDGED.

    MUST BE TYPED-OUT ON YOUR COMPUTER OR TYPEWRITER. <---



Name:

Internet email address:

Smail home address:

City-State-Zip:

Country:

Work Tel. #:

Work Fax #:

Home Tel. #:

Home Fax #:



How did you hear about us (name of person who referred you or the area of

the internet that you saw us mentioned in): Referral by: John Chen.

040896-l-ifo



Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:



Name of USA mags you currently get on the newsstand or in the store:



Name of USA mags you currently get on a subscription basis, through the mail:



Name of USA mags you would like price quotes on when we call you:



Catalogue format desired (list "1," "2," "3" or "4"):



*------------cut here/end--------------------------------------------*





Catalogue Format Options:

1. 19-Part email- can be read by EVERYONE (~525 K Total).

2. For more advanced computer users: attached text file ~525K - you

   must know how to download an attached text file and then be able to

   open it with your word processor. If in doubt, don't ask for this

   version. This isn't for internet *newbies.* Better to order option 1

   and spend a few minutes pasting them into one whole text document

   with your word processor, than to waste hours trying to figure how

   to deal with this option.

3. For more advanced Macintosh computer users: compressed attached

   text file, created with a Stuffit(tm) self-extracting archive (.sea),

   ~133K. Can be decompressed by any Macintosh computer user; no

   special expansion software or knowledge of Stuffit (tm) needed. You

   just double-click on the file icon and it automatically expands

   (unstuffs). This is for more advanced mac computer users only, as

   you still have to know how to deal with an attached file. It will cut

   your download time by 75%.  Expands out to the same ~525K file in

   option #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be

   able to do.

4. For expert computer users: compressed attached text file, created with

   Stuffit(tm), ~114K. Can be decompressed by any computer user who

   has expansion software to decompress (expand) Stuffit(tm) (.sit) files.

   This is for more advanced computer users only and will cut your

   download time by 78%.  Expands out to the same ~525K file in option

   #2. See option #2 for more info on what you will need to be able to do.







Hi fellow 'netters,



My name is John Chen and I recently started using a magazine subscription

club in the USA that has a FREE 1 yr. magazine subscription deal with your

first paid order- and I have been very pleased with them.  They have over

1,500 different USA titles that they can ship to any country on a

subscription basis.  As for computer magazines from the USA, they more of a

selection than I ever knew even existed. They have magazines for most every

area of interest in their list of 1,500 titles.



Within the USA, for their USA members, they are cheaper than all their

competitors and even the publishers themselves. This is their price

guarantee.



Overseas, on the average, they are generally around one-fourth to one-half of

what the newsstands overseas charge locally for USA magazines. On some

titles they are as little as one-tenth of what the newsstands charge. They

feel that mgazines should not be a luxury overseas.  In the USA, people buy

magazines and then toss them after reading them for just a few minutes or

hours. They are so cheap in the USA!  Well, this company would like to make

it the same way for their overseas members. They are also cheaper than all

their competitors in the USA and overseas, including the publishers

themselves!  This is their price guarantee. Around one-half their business

comes from overseas, so they are very patient with new members who only speak

limited English as a 2nd language.



Their prices are so cheap because they deal direct with each publisher and

cut-out all the middlemen.



They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)

!)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the

freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories

and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.



Please do not email me as I am just a happy customer and a *busy* student. I

don't have time to even complete my thesis in time, let alone run my

part-time software business! Please fill out the above form and carefully

follow the intructions above to get it to them via fax or smail.



They guarantee to beat all their competitors' prices. Sometimes they are less

than half of the next best deal I have been able to find and other times,

just a little cheaper - but I have never found a lower rate yet. They

assured me that if I ever do, they will beat it.



They have been very helpful and helped me with all my address changes as I

haved moved from one country to another.



They have a deal where you can get a free 1 yr. sub to a new magazine from a

special list of over 295 popular titles published in the USA.  They will

give you this free 1 yr. sub when you place your first paid order with them

to a renewal or new subscription to any of the over 1,500 different popular

USA titles they sell.



They can arrange delivery to virtually any country and I think they have

clients in around 45 or 46 countries now. Outside the USA there is a charge

for FPH (foreign postage and handling) (on both paid and freebie subs) that

varies from magazine to magazine. I have found their staff to be very

friendly and courteous. They even helped me with an address change when I

moved from one country to another.



The owner thinks of his service as a "club" and his clients as "members"

(even though there is no extra fee to become a member - your first purchase

automatically makes you a member) and he is real picky about who he accepts

as a new member.  When he sets you up as a new member, he himself calls you

personally on the phone to explain how he works his deal, or sometimes he has

one of his assistants call. He is kind of quirky sometimes - he insists on

setting up new members by phone so he can say hi to everyone (I sure wouldn't

want to have his phone bills!), but you can place future orders (after your

first order) via E-mail.



He has some really friendly young ladies working for him, who seem to know

just as much as he does about this magazine stuff. If you live overseas, he

will even call you there, as long as you are interested, but I think he still

makes all his overseas calls on the weekends, I guess cause the long distance

rates are cheaper then.



He only likes to take new members from referrals from satisfied existing

members and he does virtually no advertising. When I got set-up, they had a

2-3 week waiting list for new members to be called back so that they could

join up. (Once you are an existing member, they help you immediately when you

call. ) I think they are able to get back to prospective new members the

same day or within a few days now, as they have increased their staff. I am

not sure about this.........but if you email the above form to them, that is

the way to get started!



They will send you their DELUXE EMAIL CATALOGUE (around 525K-big and juicey)

!)...if you completely fill out the form above. It has lists of all the

freebies, lists of all the titles they sell, titles broken down by categories

and detailed descriptions on nearly 1,200 of the titles that they sell.



They then send you email that outlines how his club works and the list of

free choices that you can choose from, as well as the entire list of what he

sells; and then they will give you a quick (3-5 minute) friendly,

no-pressure no-obligation call to explain everything to you personally and

answer all your questions.



Once you get in, you'll love them. I do.





Sincerely,



John Chen