Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 12:13:02 -0400
From: Larry Horn
Subject: Re: Beijing /j/

At 9:52 AM -0700 5/13/98, Garland D Bills wrote:
> In my experience, the if-foreign-then-French rule is salient.
>There may be other things going on with Chicano (dialect variation in
>Spanish showing both [sh] and [ch]). However, when you encounter -- even
>in New Mexico!! -- people who will pronounce the surname Cha'vez (with
>stress on the first syllable) as [shave'] (with stress on the second
>syllable), I feel pretty confident those people are working with a
>[+French] procedure. And maybe a host of attitudinal baggage.
Well, maybe. But I've heard Cesar Chavez's surname pronounced CHA-vez (or
CHA-v'z), while the place where Dodger Stadium resides--Chavez Ravine--is
virtually always Anglicized to shuh-VEZ ra-VEEN, not to Garland's
Francophile [shave'] or to the more faithful chuh-VEZ.